tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21732354.post2962133640970784757..comments2008-03-28T23:40:33.812-04:00Mom101http://www.blogger.com/profile/15468524489744839899noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21732354.post-18183232361507670282008-03-28T23:40:33.812-04:002008-03-28T23:40:33.812-04:00

I'm on the other side of this Camp Baby as a blogger so unknown, I'm not even D List, I'm E list. I'd love to be invited to things like Camp Baby. That has to be incredibly flattering. Sometimes I get frustrated because I'm a mommy vlogger and I produce a video show for moms on my blog. HELLO! Video! I'm the ideal person to send to these things. Yet I get passed by. Oh, maybe due to a lack

Mutha Maehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18071091659191752451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21732354.post-11345917697145575662008-03-28T16:56:31.322-04:002008-03-28T16:56:31.322-04:00

"Blogger outreach" sounds like a dangerous business. One day, my friend invited me to a focus group because she knew I was on maternity leave and would be home during the day. I showed up with my baby because I was on maternity leave (duh!).<BR/><BR/>They turned me away because I wouldn't be able to concentrate. Oops.<BR/><BR/>At least they gave me a gift card for my time and trouble. Win win.<BR

RookieMom Heatherhttp://rookiemoms.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21732354.post-46697590132315245302008-03-28T11:58:36.498-04:002008-03-28T11:58:36.498-04:00

Totally.

Magpiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15460136246441367993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21732354.post-67273269832285552862008-03-27T15:13:53.388-04:002008-03-27T15:13:53.388-04:00

Amen and pass the gravy.

Jenny, the Bloggesshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13718481135182612620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21732354.post-47057455518016290852008-03-27T12:41:02.615-04:002008-03-27T12:41:02.615-04:00

BRAVO!<BR/><BR/>I am adding this to my link love list of "battle of the sexes" post right now...

Julie Pipperthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03169574697104642479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21732354.post-48165917750975401422008-03-27T09:48:15.349-04:002008-03-27T09:48:15.349-04:00

DH recently had this conversation at work.<BR/><BR/>BOSS: I'm concerned about something you said the other day about this being "just a job."<BR/><BR/>DH: I challenge anyone to question whether I take this job seriously. But what I LIVE for? Is at home.<BR/><BR/>The end.<BR/><BR/>I expect a pink slip any day now ...

Beckyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12081407943364179723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21732354.post-2440557690149196962008-03-27T08:54:30.338-04:002008-03-27T08:54:30.338-04:00

It truly was poor planning to expect a group of moms with small children, many of whom are nursing, to leave those kids behind in the middle of the week for a three day event. <BR/><BR/>I'm going, only because my husband has way too much comp time built up at work and wants me to get away for a few days. If he couldn't stay home with the girls, there's no way I could have found anyone else for a

Christinahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07345875955750219033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21732354.post-41302209677180228082008-03-27T07:40:50.549-04:002008-03-27T07:40:50.549-04:00

that's right.. we need to turn those tables and start with the attitude of, "you want me? well... here's what I need YOU to do to get me".

~Kat~http://www.blogger.com/profile/13910327288366042238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21732354.post-23798725070690730662008-03-27T01:23:45.404-04:002008-03-27T01:23:45.404-04:00

My feelings weren't hurt, really! they weren't! I don't want the take away from this whole this to be a "poor me" scenario. And while not allowing nursing moms to attend camp baby is just plain...weird, the point I wanted to make with my post(s) is that you don't treat people you are trying to build a relationship with in such an unprofessional manner. (That is step 2 after step 1: know your

Stefaniahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01949057289956579802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21732354.post-34863522134333482622008-03-26T22:31:20.612-04:002008-03-26T22:31:20.612-04:00

I like this post and the link to the Blog Her analysis. Thanks for that. I think it is near impossible for anyone to plan an event for a mother unless they ARE a mother. So who knows who was planning this event? I got three emails for it from J&J's PR firm, probably some young acct exec who still goes out for happy hour every night after work. In their head, planning the event during the week,

selfmademomhttp://selfmademom.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21732354.post-75002566002077135272008-03-26T22:14:47.457-04:002008-03-26T22:14:47.457-04:00

Dang. My computer goes quiet for two weeks and I miss EVERYTHING.<BR/><BR/>I'm not sure what the J&J thing is about - I'll go read the other posts you've referred to - but you get my feminist fist up like no one else.<BR/><BR/>Pass the baby...I'll bounce for a while.

Jozet at Halushkihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16790825543155685363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21732354.post-16889441148865253202008-03-26T21:35:54.679-04:002008-03-26T21:35:54.679-04:00

I'm sickened by this, too. I was recently laid off from my job. It was a mass lay off. And it seems that every single person who was let go had small children at home. <BR/><BR/>I'm also a freelance advertising writer, and I recently updated my website. I wanted to end my bio with "she lives in Austin with her husband and two children," but I left that sentence off because I didn't want people

zellmerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17205730682765977056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21732354.post-65645053740123349462008-03-26T19:29:13.692-04:002008-03-26T19:29:13.692-04:00

that's what i'm talkin' about sister.

traceyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17137351051366653697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21732354.post-51770607538581384852008-03-26T15:37:11.982-04:002008-03-26T15:37:11.982-04:00

Excellent post. I am planning to post on this soon as well. (I was also invited, and am going to attend, but I have already emailed to express my displeasure regarding the nursing mothers incident, and I plan to make it clear while I am there that I think if they ever want to throw another event like this, they need to make accommodations for nursing mothers part of the plan.)

Jaelithehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12081888212421953409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21732354.post-37454613929277387372008-03-26T14:06:05.969-04:002008-03-26T14:06:05.969-04:00

Oh, woman, you just set me off in the BlogHer comments for Heather's post...

dorothywww.surrenderdorothyblog.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21732354.post-69439562938645419142008-03-26T13:34:14.277-04:002008-03-26T13:34:14.277-04:00

Ding ding ding. You got it spot-on.

Erika Jurneyhttp://plainjanemom.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21732354.post-19001374475443403842008-03-26T12:30:37.577-04:002008-03-26T12:30:37.577-04:00

The work thing is really interesting, and oh so true.<BR/><BR/>I think it's horrible that women feel that they can't mention their children in the workplace/interviews/professional environment because they will be misjudged. It's ridiculous, and I agree, it happens to women more than men.<BR/><BR/>Interestingly, my experience as a childless person in the workforce has been that the allowances for

jonnikerhttp://jonniker.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21732354.post-2374011482068812992008-03-26T12:07:21.890-04:002008-03-26T12:07:21.890-04:00

Margalit, I get that you're feeling excluded, but I don't think that's what's going on here. <BR/><BR/>A company that makes baby products invited some mothers who have young babies and write about having young babies to an event about young babies. That's marketing, not discrimination. <BR/><BR/>Excluding men, however, well, it would bother me except that it's just so damn predictable.

Feeder of the hungry beanshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06888622370869204571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21732354.post-7885301850558133842008-03-26T10:54:06.491-04:002008-03-26T10:54:06.491-04:00

re: backpacking dad,<BR/><BR/>my (former) dissertation advisor referred to my pregnancy in an email as a "hindrance". it paralyzed me for months. and then it resulted in more motivation and a new female/mom dissertation director for me, one less graduate committee for his CV.<BR/><BR/>i'm not a blogger, and i'm just finding out about this J&J thing from your post, but it's appalling. i like

Cynthiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10704377193448041875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21732354.post-54326270424050086062008-03-26T10:29:04.426-04:002008-03-26T10:29:04.426-04:00

This is one of the best posts I've read about all this J&J stuff so far. <BR/><BR/>Steph

Adventures In Babywearinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02703122439142892617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21732354.post-21850995942328843672008-03-26T09:39:40.880-04:002008-03-26T09:39:40.880-04:00

It's amazing how this all blew up. But I agree with you, Liz. As soon as the PR firms start playing by our rules then I'll start inviting them to my playgroup.<BR/><BR/>With that said, i am attending Camp Clusterf*ck and I'll be taking notes while getting my hair braided. Wish I could hop over to NYC to visit with you all.

Chicky Chicky Babyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18056206889322232109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21732354.post-22971431539289356892008-03-26T09:24:09.269-04:002008-03-26T09:24:09.269-04:00

I don't even know about this Disney thing that is going on. Should I be offended? Eh, not so much. <BR/><BR/>It sucks to not be invited, but considering they courted Dutch only to realize he was, in fact, a dude, I wouldn't be too too offended. It's obvious they weren't really sure who they were inviting. Same goes for bloggers of color. I'm not sure how they found their list, but it wasn't

Deep Fried Yankeehttp://motherhooduncensored.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21732354.post-55591825771340121202008-03-26T08:58:33.018-04:002008-03-26T08:58:33.018-04:00

Dutch, wait, you have a penis? WTF, I thought you and Wood were a lesbian couple. Preop situation?

Mom101http://www.blogger.com/profile/15468524489744839899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21732354.post-32434519172104232092008-03-26T08:45:27.431-04:002008-03-26T08:45:27.431-04:00

I can't wait for the job interviews in three years when I get to explain the five year gap in my resume! that is, if I get any interviews at all.<BR/><BR/>I was invited to the J&J baby camp. I received all kinds of e-mails saying "Dutch! Call right away to make your travel arrangements!" <BR/><BR/>Unfortunately I was disinvited when I called and the organizers realized I had a penis. I have a

Dutchhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17138644775090861195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21732354.post-41866508128576222762008-03-26T07:11:42.927-04:002008-03-26T07:11:42.927-04:00

A few points<BR/><BR/>1) The not allowing a nursing mom to attend is effed and they should have said that from the beginning. Which would have saved a lot of trouble. <BR/><BR/>2) J&J could only invite 50 people and then they raised it to 56. They wanted it to be small and intimate. It's like a dinner party not a kegger. <BR/><BR/>3) There is a much larger problem with PR companies and

Heather B.http://www.blogger.com/profile/07931351971982028473noreply@blogger.com